Players we should look to get shot of and why.

Personally I don't think our squad is as bad as people say. Having said that there IS a lot I'd get rid of in January if we had a magic wand. Some players don't fit in what we are trying to do but are very good players, some have bad attitudes, some are injury prone and the rest are bad. For me it reflects the mis management of the club from bilic and the board. There was no clear direction so instead of getting a certain type of forward (for example) we just got one with a bit of a name but doesn't fit in. So for me I'd get rid of, 1 hart wtf was his signing all about? Publicity? 2 fonte far too old and no future. 3 snodgrass doesn't offer us anything we don't have from players we already have. 4. Ayew doesn't offer enough in a game and I can't really see a defined position he would be good in. 5 kouyate, reminds me of someone who thinks he has a lot more skills than he actually does, often a liability in midfield. 6 Hernandez, just won't fit with what Moyes is trying to do, so will be a waste unless he changes the way he is playing which he won't. 7 Carroll bad attitude, shirker, injury prone and just drags our style down when he plays. 8 sakho- just burnt too many bridges. IMO if we lost all those tomorrow they won't make hardly any difference other than a lack of numbers.

cast iron's picture

especially your point about Hart, not only did we buy somebody we did'nt need we lost a good number2 in Randolph That money should have gone on a decent number 2. I hope that Sicko Carrol go in Jan and buy a top-class striker, Someone who will compliment Chikos style of play, but the most important move is to try and get a good defensive midfielder. I'm surprised that we havent heard anymore about Carvallo only our attendances seem to be going down you normally hear about 4 or 5 top class players that G&S reckon we are going to get

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andycarrollstyle's picture

I thought we had got rid of Snodgrass but alas he is only on loan at Villa... have to agree with all those players you list - especially Fonte... he's been a major let-down, should of been a great partnership with Reid. Ayew has scored important goals - has a habit of being in the right place at the right time for the tap-ins but I dunno what he does for the rest of the match! We should upgrade Kouyate with Carvalho and put in a sensible offer for Harry Arter and rotate him with Noble...

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mcbikeman's picture

since when have we put in sensible offers for players i mean i can't believe we went in with a £7million offer for Arter surely he's only worth £1million with add on clauses taking it to £1.2million...and carvalho translates into English as Fellaini:-)

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andycarrollstyle's picture

United have got Felaini on a 'Perm' deal... not short for permanent, means they are taking care of his hairdo

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Is on his way!!gawd help us

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Sell Kouyate and Ayew and we will start picking up more points just because they cant play.

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asheshammer's picture

Just not sure if we are going to bring in anyone that's better!

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The problem is we can't just get rid of that amount of players. its becoming harder not only to buy players but to get rid of them it seems. i also can't see our board bringing in anything better tbh. for me the squad is o.k. we need something else in midfield though. not sure Fellaini is the answer but i guess he might add something more than Obiang, Kouyate and Noble can offer. I think the problem with these three is that they are all pretty average. so playing any two of them at a time and its weak. if we had fellaini as a holding midfielder, my choice would be to get shot of Obiang. I (despite what fred says) believe Kouyate can play as a box to box midfielder. he's not the best at sitting, he always wants to get forward and is encouraged to do so by the manager so its my view that the most important position we need to look at is the holding midfielder. i really am not sure why Rice doesnt get a run there as he's better than all 3 we've got in that role imo. up front is starting to be a problem too. as you say hernandez isn't a moyes player. its looking more and more like he's refusing to bend his philosophy to give hernandez a starting role too. personally id have kept Arnautovic in the roaming role behind and put hernandez in to replace Antonio but moyes went with ayew taking the roaming role and pushing Arnautovic up front. he scored twice so i guess theres no defence to complain but they were gifts of goals. i think hernandez is the sort of player who would score regularly with support from arnautovic. so for me the key is that defensive midfielder.

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asheshammer's picture

And I also agree that Rice should be given a chance in that role. If he really is the player he's been touted to be, now is the time to settle him in. I don't really want Fellaini at the club. My reasons are pretty subjective, though. I can't stand the mop, for one thing! But I also think he's been a dirty player, -- maybe it comes from Manure, ha ha. And I have had a gutful of older players like Hart, Zabaleta, etc. They don't come cheap and they don't usually contribute much. Gone are the Teddy Shearingham's of the world. Alas!

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Box to box midfielder usually means you help defend not just stand forward all game.

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mcbikeman's picture

Lets do it quick and not let it drag on...look at the £75million van dijk deal it will be done new years day bosh he's a liverpool player...now i no thats always going to have happened but it also shows if you pay the money you get the deal...going in low and dragging it out cannot help anyone....also maybe we can sell Fonte back to southampton now for say £15million:-)

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boogerscaravan's picture

Our squad is not exactly strength in depth is it? We may have players that fans want out, but if theirs nobody to bring in then why lose anybody? It doesn't make sense. January as anyone with half a brain knows is the worst time to sign anyone. Yes maybe get a couple in or do player swap plus a bit of lolly. But as for just shipping players out - I don't see why??

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asheshammer's picture

but changes to the starting 11 have to be made, even if it is difficult at first. I like the idea of giving Rice a real chance. Maybe Oxford, too (though I can't understand why he's been shipped around so much). Maybe Martinez too. I remember when Harry Kane started playing for Spurs. He was hyped like the next Wunderkind, but he wasn't that good. Look at him now. How will we ever know if any of our youth have that capability unless we play them?

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burkie's picture

https://youtu.be/La5J_yli2EU this is a fukin no brainer at least give him a chance in the team
https://youtu.be/fV8FfZfczbo

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You work with players on a day to day basis and judge them on that. If they go out on loan you keep a close eye on their progress. You can't play youngsters willy nilly or on a whimm
If Oxfrd was anything like the player hes supposed to be theres no chance that he would be going to Liepzig nor that he would only have played 3 games at Bor.Moenchengladbach. Harry kanes a rare talent and he benefited from going out on loan and being brought on slowly. If we signed Fellani I would welcome it because he'd bring something extra and would give more options all over the park as hes a versatile player.
I'd give Rice a run in the side, but apart from that I don't agree with much of whats been said here.

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I do sometimes think it's madness some people touting for certain youngsters to play. Take the likes of Oxford, Cullen, Martinez, quina and Holland. I often hear fans say give them a chance. Based on what exactly? Have you seen a lot of them playing? If not you are just picking names out of a hat! Football manager perhaps? Rice is a bit different. We have now seen a fair bit of him and despite a few hiccups it's probably safe to say he is a serious squad addition that can do a lot more than sit on the bench.

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Oxfords done as much as rice has

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Where?

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Rice has done it for us whereas oxfords progress ATM is a mystery.

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