West Ham Fans

It is officially a myth.

With you on that mate, there's nothing wrong with being proud to be English no matter what the politically correct establishment would have us believe.

Absolutely not! The fact that 90% of our language comes from the French, the Italians and the Vikings is something to be hugely proud of! Anybody whose name ends in "son" is, of course, part Viking. Any town, like West Ham, ending in "Ham" is also Viking. Our royal family are German, our aristocracy are French and those that actually work amongst our "working class" are Poles, Lithuanians, Latvians or Bulgars. We only returned to being a monarchy with the help of the Dutch, our Primeminister is Scottish and our Foreign policy, based on Iraq, is decided in Washington DC. Most of our companies are now foreign owned and most of our laws are made in Brussels. Our national football, cricket and rugby teams are second rate, we probably wont win a single athletics Gold at our own Olympics and every major construction project we launch ends up costing twice the estimate and is delivered two years or more late. Our schools are crap, our hospitals breed super bugs, our national dish is now curry, our Patron saint was a Muslim and Turkish and the Mini is made by BMW. But f8ck it, we are English, and proud of it!

Yes Fanno I am English and proud of it, not proud of how the Country is now but I am proud of our history and especially of the East End stock I come from. This Country needs serious surgery but I won't go into detail as no doubt you will twist it, get me going and end up turning me into some right wing nutter!

Only if you are mate. They don't come much more right wing than me. I think it is bloody crazy that if you mistreat a pet, you can be banned from ever having another one but if you abuse a child you can have as many as you like. If I ruled the country I would do the following: 1) Restrict the vote to people in paid employment. 2) Remove all free benefits. If you want a handout, you have to work for it - cleaning up litter, grafitti, toilets etcetera. 3) Anybody failing as a parent would be banned from having another. If she carried it to term, I would confiscate at birth and pass to a proven caring parent, who I would pay £15,000 a year to raise the child PROVIDING she was a full time mother. 4) I would put contraceptives into the water supply on a postal code basis, stopping the breeding of the underclass that is destroying our country. 5) I would introduce huge tax incentives to marry and massive tax disincentives to divorce. 6) I would do everything I could to enforce parental responsibility for children, including fining and imprisoning parents who resfuse to control their antisocial off-spring. 7) I would have a copper in every school and would use schools as "detention centres" for antisocial youths at the end of the school day, keeping them on site until 9pm under police supervision and returned home in police vans under curfew. 8) I would bring back the cane in school and the stocks for adults. 9) I would outsource our prisons, building them in the old Eastern bloc. I wouldn't give a sh1t how the prisoners were treated - they asked for it! 10) I would pass a law that said that any Primeminister who sent "our boys" away to war would have to send his own son to the front line from day one. He might then think twice before he bloody does it! 11) I would legalise all drugs but refuse medical care for anybody who takes them. And you are worried that I would attack you for your right wing views? LOL

You know, 1984 was a story not a manifesto.

Welcome to Victory Mansions.

That looks like you want a mix between Hitlers Germany and Stalins Russia.

COYI!!!

West Ham Till I Die

Two hours in the stocks for each apostrophe error Steve. Fortunately, there was only one Hitler and one Stalin! Can't see anything in my manifesto that advocates genocide!

I thought Gaunty was a Coventry fan?

Fanno - you'd get my vote too! Some good ideas there...maybe you ought to become a politician...or are you one already? Are you really Norman Tebbitt...?

LOL KP, I don't see Fanno as a Tory, mind the post on top has me thinking but I always had him down as one of George Galloway's Respect disciples.

F8cking cheek! Galloway is a traitor and a twat!

you would get my vote fanno !!

LMAO! Like it, Bet your putting contrseptives in the pool arnt ya?

Great big chunks of it yes!

Hahahaahhaha. Couldn't have been PM a year a ago!

Take this as a public apology Brother Fanno. I'm too tired to put into words how frustrated I am Fanno but I agree with most of what you say. Look forward to chewing the fat with you if you ever get to an away game next season. If you decide to run as Prime Minister I would be happy to run as your deputy COYHaveIgotyouwrongIrons!

LOL But are you Bullemic?

It's a wonder it hasn't been abolished because of cruelty to dragons. I'm serious.

Dragons don't exist mate. Sorry to break the news!

Rubbish. You've clearly bought into the vast right wing anti-dragon conspiracy.

Drafted in Shropshire no doubt. Keep those Taffs in their place!

Make you right there mate,look at st paddy's day you'll not see an irishman for dust on a building site after opening time.You tell the foreman your off for a few pint's to celebrate st georges day and he'll tell you to piss off.Don't make sense.

Well, considering St George was a Turkish Muslim who died because he refused to deny Allah, I'm not quite sure about his relevance to England. I dislike all this patron saint nonsense. Why not make it William Shakespeare day, given it is his birthday? Mind you, Will was a Catholic so he would probably support the Saints Day nonsense. Anybody know how it survived the Revolution? I'm surprised the Puritans didn't confine it all to history back then. Instead of Saint George, why not commemorate a true British hero each year? Perhaps somebody from the armed forces, the fire brigade, the police etcetera. Then we could all give a £1 to a "Heroes" fund, used to help these guys coming back from Iraq maimed, or the families of those killed. Why celebrate a legend when we can pay tribute to real modern heroes? So my proposal is to make the day "England's Heroes Day". Scotland and Wales could do the same. We would have to keep St Patrick's Day however, it is worth too much money to the Guiness family!

Decent idea re the Heroes day and thanks for the History lesson Sir! Hope you enjoy your day off tomorrow or will you be picketing at the School gates with your Brothers & Sisters? 2 Weeks off and then out on strike, you lot are priceless!

Some history lesson. St George was a Christian not a Muslim. And Muslims allegedly get upset about a cross. Certainly burnt a few flags anyway. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/saints/george_1.sht... or http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/stgeorge3.html

Depends on which story you believe Dave. The truth is, there was no "George" (and guess what, there was no dragon either). There are a number of theories as to who he was but the story seems to have its roots in a tale about a Turkish Muslim who was challenged to deny Allah and elected the "dragon's fire" of being burnt to death rather than doing so. I will try to bring the research to you. LOL Don't believe what you read in the papers but do believe what they post on the BBC web page and what kids at Woodlands Junior School are taught! Do you know, they probably think Adam and Eve ate an apple...Of course it was a pomegranate (appel is the Old English word for fruit)and Eden was in Iraq. The real Adam and Eve almost certainly came down from the trees in Uganda.

Yanno what? I was a Boy Cub and a Boy Scout. I was in the Boys Brigade and also the Air Cadets. I also went to Sunday School and went on God knows how many St. Georges Day Parades. Yanno what? I believe there was a God.I believe a virgin gave birth. I believe in Adam and Eve. I believe there was a St George and he slew a dragon. I believe he was a Christian and you can bring up as much research as you want that he was a Muslim because I've already looked the "facts" up and I know for every research you dig up , I'll have three and more to beat ya. Because I know you talk soooooooooooooo much sh!t that you'd make up an argument for any case that suits YOU. Who gives a flying fack whether there was a Garden of Eden or an apple tree in Uganda? I do.Because some things are worth believing 'til some ignorant cretin tries to spill some lies about a Fairy Tale. Because I am not allowed to believe the newspapers or the BBC. I'm not allowed to believe an innocent Junior School but i gotta believe EVERYTHING from you shitey old mouth. GO FACK YOURSELF CRETIN

LOL Don't remember reading that last sentence in the Bible Dave. Loads of oxymorons in there too mate like "til some ignorant cretin tries to spill some lies about a Fairy Tale" - if it is a Fairy Tale, it is by definition fiction so how can any lies be spilt about it? So, clarify please Dave, is The Bible the word of God or a compendium of Fairy Stories? Another question, why did they write Lilith out of Genesis? (By the way, I was a Cub too, but then I discovered girls and somehow dib dib dib lost it's attraction! Anyway, appears I was a little confused from this source - he was Turkish but apparently a Christian, although venerated by Muslims. Check out this link: http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/england-english-st-george-dragon... Or if you can't be arsed to follow that link, according to Dr Robert Beckford, "The white racists and fascists who have appropriated the flag of St George would be astonished to discover that he is front runner as the ideal multicultural saint. Far from the genocidal warrior of the Crusaders' legend, he is venerated by Muslims as well as Christians. George, the 'English' saint of Mummers' plays, was born in Turkey. Some believe he is buried at in Lod (Lydda), in Israel. He is honoured at the shrine here and throughout the Holy Land, where he is known to Palestinian Christians and Muslims as Al-Khadr." Two more points, The Bible itself situates the Garden of Eden in Iraq between the Euphrates and the Tigris Rivers. Most of the intelligent people of the world now accept the Theory of Evolution and the earliest "humanoid" remains have been found in Uganda. To quote True Romance, "So your great great great grandmother was f8cked by an eggplant." That doesn't trouble me of course, but the white racists amongst us might struggle to come to terms with being originally from the loins of Ugandans!

The Teachers of today Dave, they obviously should spend more at school themselves!

More time at school? Bloody hell, isn't 8.45 to 3pm a full working day? Doesn't everybody have thirty six weeks of holiday each year?

LOL! We are building a bleedin' rocket tomorrow mate. Wouldn't mind sticking a few lazy lard arse teachers in the payload bay. Their six weeks holiday could go on for ever then!

I certainly agree with your idea Fanno, though I'd still like it to be called St George's day. By celebrating those who fought for us and raising money, we would relly make a difference. I don't agree with the war but whatever the politics behind it, they went out to fight for us and that's admirable. We have rememberance day but that's more a day for reflection and is a quiet affair. This would give us chance to cheer our boys and celebrate. Beers and BBQ's may be a nice idea too! lol. Phippsy

Like you I am opposed to this war but, like you, I think the soldiers should be respected for the job they are being ordered to do.

Sorry replied twice. Phippsy